tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post2908759717957769072..comments2024-03-27T23:23:10.995+13:00Comments on 3rd Level New Zealand: What Kapiti wants Air Chats seeks to provideSteve Lhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06894943682751269848noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-16062117674375266262018-07-02T11:11:51.471+12:002018-07-02T11:11:51.471+12:00Kapiti to Auckland flights on sale this morning on...Kapiti to Auckland flights on sale this morning on the Air Chathams website. Kapiti to Auckland from Monday 20 August; no flights Auckland to Kapiti shown before 23 August. Entry fare is $69; full fare is $318. Saab aircraft.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-33037204323014614992018-06-30T09:03:49.060+12:002018-06-30T09:03:49.060+12:00Is this it then? Has air chats won the ultimate ra...Is this it then? Has air chats won the ultimate race of filling the void that Air NZ left and also becoming a fully fledged 2nd almost 1st level airline that could almost rival air nz??? <br />Sounds air the only other major player that made leaps and bounds in the initial phase with a little extra steal with the ChCh bhl route. With some big announcements of a potential B1900 order that has yet fras444https://www.blogger.com/profile/00859543159403131176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-600213486496042772018-06-30T08:55:34.914+12:002018-06-30T08:55:34.914+12:00Hahahaha is that what they intend on doing??? That...Hahahaha is that what they intend on doing??? That would be geniuous... Come to the rescue.. the public would not know that we also have an aircraft that is also a 50 seater. Bring in the modern looking 34 seater Saab. Operate for a couple of months... "ooo look, we can actually grow this sector to a 50 seat aircraft.... " which is what air nz used from the beginning.... Because we are fras444https://www.blogger.com/profile/00859543159403131176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-78844203494742202792018-06-30T08:39:57.341+12:002018-06-30T08:39:57.341+12:00Exactly.
Imagine the ratepayers backlash when a hu...Exactly.<br />Imagine the ratepayers backlash when a hug sum of money and a huge amount of inconvenience of having road works ripping up the road to fit pressure pads down etc for Air Chats to then buy or use a plane that rendered the lights unneeded... That would be abit of a oops.... <br />Would a Convair exemt the lights rule??? Could air chats upgrade to a 580? Not much difference capacity fras444https://www.blogger.com/profile/00859543159403131176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-57204861219421143632018-06-29T14:27:26.433+12:002018-06-29T14:27:26.433+12:00Indeed if the route is very succesful they could p...Indeed if the route is very succesful they could put on the 50 seat Convair which may not need traffic lights for the take off.Jardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09479692716451494956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-75826182483257842512018-06-29T10:16:51.488+12:002018-06-29T10:16:51.488+12:00Busy time for Air Chathams - on their Facebook pag...Busy time for Air Chathams - on their Facebook page on 24 June in answer to a question about their plans for Norfolk Island they answered:<br /><br />"Awaiting operational approvals but aiming for September".<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-8740033891484940232018-06-29T10:12:22.739+12:002018-06-29T10:12:22.739+12:00It is not "a joint venture with the Council&q...It is not "a joint venture with the Council". Kapiti Airport is privately owned and understandably commercial. Airways charges for flight services push the total cost of operations way above that at similar airports. This has been reported in Kapiti. KCDC can in law and now is paying a sum for an initial period to reduce those costs and make a service viable. It is not a subsidy to Air Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-91029580211343260852018-06-28T21:12:06.270+12:002018-06-28T21:12:06.270+12:00Crew overnights are a very very small percentage o...Crew overnights are a very very small percentage of cost of running an airlineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-5769895838794502752018-06-28T13:24:09.635+12:002018-06-28T13:24:09.635+12:00Oops, mean't Sunday to Friday.Oops, mean't Sunday to Friday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-33154724633652751312018-06-28T13:23:34.796+12:002018-06-28T13:23:34.796+12:00Overnights Sunday to MondayOvernights Sunday to MondayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-26152364168526266252018-06-28T12:56:33.549+12:002018-06-28T12:56:33.549+12:00Whakatane flight overnights too doesn't itWhakatane flight overnights too doesn't itfras444https://www.blogger.com/profile/00859543159403131176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-18513477553575781732018-06-28T12:47:34.774+12:002018-06-28T12:47:34.774+12:00Whanganui is the same. Air Chathams have purchased...Whanganui is the same. Air Chathams have purchased a staff house there. Maybe they will look at doing that with PPQAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-39742156557302929902018-06-28T11:02:18.169+12:002018-06-28T11:02:18.169+12:00Looking at the proposed timetable, the Saab will o...Looking at the proposed timetable, the Saab will overnight in PPQ Monday to Saturday. Bit of a cost there in overnight crewing.<br /><br />Besides business travel, the timetable seems to be designed for morning international flight arrivals and later afternoon/evening international flight departures.Krisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-14609251676274570632018-06-28T10:15:15.816+12:002018-06-28T10:15:15.816+12:00And that's the issue, people will drive an hou...And that's the issue, people will drive an hour to save $50.00 on a fare. No one values their time and overlooks the cost of drivingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-30248245309314737132018-06-28T07:14:32.861+12:002018-06-28T07:14:32.861+12:00Not forgetting that PMR has high frequency and two...Not forgetting that PMR has high frequency and two operators, the one local I spoke too not shy to admit they will travel (to wlg/pmr) for the best deal, or in some cases drive to save excess baggage in the odd case. They do 1/2 dozen trips a year. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-45559842598552615432018-06-28T07:11:51.578+12:002018-06-28T07:11:51.578+12:00Makes it tight. Late in during evening will be lat...Makes it tight. Late in during evening will be late out the next morning. Airnz have proven that slip crew has worked, but at what cost? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-37285320832076009022018-06-27T22:00:22.488+12:002018-06-27T22:00:22.488+12:00Would love to know the thoughts of the average rat...Would love to know the thoughts of the average ratepayer regarding this, with what is ineffect a joint venture with the council.<br />Yes, hating Air New Zealand appears to be a national pastime, paying more than $60 per sector today warrants a social media rant, but would there be a provincial uproar, my guess is yes, if they were given a few hundred thousand subsidy to continue the service?<br Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-17634028362754611582018-06-27T21:56:20.434+12:002018-06-27T21:56:20.434+12:00If it can support midday services... summer and wi...If it can support midday services... summer and winter...midday flights tend to be low fares based on early purchase at low yield...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-44342881859499089892018-06-27T20:04:05.876+12:002018-06-27T20:04:05.876+12:00Midday crew swap just like the other routes. Midday crew swap just like the other routes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-3795350456063985952018-06-27T19:12:49.112+12:002018-06-27T19:12:49.112+12:00If route deems a huge success. Then there would be...If route deems a huge success. Then there would be permanent lighting installed I could only imagine. But who knows... Price of installing traffic lights vs buying and using temp lights.... even if it is a huge success.... Air Chats could even get an aircraft that would exempt these rules and thus installing traffic lights deemed an expensive projectfras444https://www.blogger.com/profile/00859543159403131176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-3719451111173237732018-06-27T19:09:06.952+12:002018-06-27T19:09:06.952+12:00Guess no permanent work will have commenced anytim...Guess no permanent work will have commenced anytime in the near to mid term future. Getting remote controlled temporary road work lights will be the go and will turn up at the last minute/a couple of days before service commences.fras444https://www.blogger.com/profile/00859543159403131176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-90633348796104227482018-06-27T18:33:30.166+12:002018-06-27T18:33:30.166+12:00Early morning departures and later evening arrival...Early morning departures and later evening arrivals ( ie full business day in AKL) will make it expensive as it will require slip crewing...dearer fares or bigger subsidies ????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-44162293080637577162018-06-27T13:05:57.554+12:002018-06-27T13:05:57.554+12:00Nope, no new traffic lights on Kapiti Road as of y...Nope, no new traffic lights on Kapiti Road as of yet. Not even any indication of works to start there...Jordan Elvynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-33412030645922593322018-06-27T09:16:04.697+12:002018-06-27T09:16:04.697+12:00Should not be long now before Air Chathams announc...Should not be long now before Air Chathams announce a start date. Does any one know if the traffic lights have been installed at the end of the runway on Kapiti Road? That was one of the requirements to get the service underway.Jardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09479692716451494956noreply@blogger.com