tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post3604109623879492905..comments2024-03-27T23:23:10.995+13:00Comments on 3rd Level New Zealand: Barrier Air to fly Hamilton-AucklandSteve Lhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06894943682751269848noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-53093290097459446662016-02-06T11:26:15.744+13:002016-02-06T11:26:15.744+13:00Barrier Air needs to get its act together. First o...Barrier Air needs to get its act together. First of all their website is a mess. On 1 Feb they commenced twice daily returns between North Shore and AKL International but try finding that on their illustrated destination page. The only way to get an inkling about those flights is to go to their Fares page. But it gets worse!<br /><br />Learning of those flights through information contained in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-60729089427574281702016-01-28T16:30:41.181+13:002016-01-28T16:30:41.181+13:00A visit to Hamilton from Barrier Air Caravan today...A visit to Hamilton from Barrier Air Caravan today. Clearly route proving.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-21462970567377892982016-01-28T10:30:18.340+13:002016-01-28T10:30:18.340+13:00No the routes were originally operated even furthe...No the routes were originally operated even further back than that with NAC as directed by the government. Once the rules changed in 1983 and the Air Services licensing board disbanded and that allowed other Airlines to begin operations and opening routes. NAC/Air NZ operated most of those routes with 15 F27's until the BIL boys gave the regional operation to Mot Air/Air Nelson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-76568865145655638102016-01-28T09:03:35.186+13:002016-01-28T09:03:35.186+13:00Yeah true...poor old Eagle.Yeah true...poor old Eagle.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14812356343384599552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-54461724104459769342016-01-27T21:12:14.017+13:002016-01-27T21:12:14.017+13:00You forget that Air NZs regional subsidiaries once...You forget that Air NZs regional subsidiaries once were three separate 3rd level airlines, and those routes date from back then. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-69227430626344085602016-01-27T16:39:43.137+13:002016-01-27T16:39:43.137+13:00I think Air NZ should never have started routes li...I think Air NZ should never have started routes like this and also westport, kaitaia etc as they just weren't made for big airlines - they should've been 3rd level operations from day 1. I don't want to fault Air NZ-they have a good reputation and they're trying to cover all bases in terms of routes. I feel that because they're the national carrier they feel obliged to go to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-14935439557165887432016-01-27T15:16:34.318+13:002016-01-27T15:16:34.318+13:00Check your source. August '14 was last trislan...Check your source. August '14 was last trislander run. Not even 2 years has passed. Also, welcome back to planet earth. Everyone else knew they were retired. I recall the post on this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-4944922908969179562016-01-27T14:58:22.782+13:002016-01-27T14:58:22.782+13:00Good on ya guys best of luck ! No harm in trying a...Good on ya guys best of luck ! No harm in trying aeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-83157146722924888032016-01-27T11:12:33.316+13:002016-01-27T11:12:33.316+13:00Bit late to chime in on this, but I'm a regula...Bit late to chime in on this, but I'm a regular user of this route...and I just can't be arsed driving up to AKL. So it is a relief that Barrier has jumped in. The route works and a good timetable covering overseas flights at each end of the day...also the benefit of lining into Barrier's small network.<br />The versatility of being able to have more domestic choice is a bonus. Pity Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-15833208120225268582016-01-27T10:52:51.296+13:002016-01-27T10:52:51.296+13:00Interesting comments all around. I think Kaitaia i...Interesting comments all around. I think Kaitaia is safe. Surely they would have announced withdrawing already if that was the plan? Rumor on the grapevine is that a second 208 isn't far away. It'll be interesting to see how they do on Hamilton - I hope it works for them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-90589507733933100212016-01-27T10:52:12.123+13:002016-01-27T10:52:12.123+13:00Think I saw somewhere that Barrier Air tried for t...Think I saw somewhere that Barrier Air tried for that when they took over Kaitaia but got turned down. Doubt AirNZ would interline with anyone they didnt have to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-64176503031274764882016-01-27T10:49:55.306+13:002016-01-27T10:49:55.306+13:00Going off of the pictures on this blog havent they...Going off of the pictures on this blog havent they already repainted and branded 3 of their aircraft? Cant ground the whole fleet at once for a respray. Again just going off of the updates on 3rdlevel this company seems worlds apart from where it was over a year ago hahaha!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-23195471366572572992016-01-27T10:41:25.782+13:002016-01-27T10:41:25.782+13:00The Barrier would definitely make money. Suppose B...The Barrier would definitely make money. Suppose Barrier Air Could make even more money if you can open up Great Barrier tourism by making it viable for Waikato residents to travel by air to GB. I applaud them for continuing to invest in their service and grow the business. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-67085905029616470572016-01-27T06:58:32.584+13:002016-01-27T06:58:32.584+13:00AirNZ will never interline with a 3rd level operat...AirNZ will never interline with a 3rd level operator (despite not officially saying so). LAX also isn't proberbly a good example because of the APP requirement when pax are accepted for US flights, but get your idea.<br /><br />Interesting that the fares are cheaper than there core business, even though they are the same distance.<br /><br />What does this mean for Kaitaia? They do not haveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-67503053778833770112016-01-27T00:21:37.527+13:002016-01-27T00:21:37.527+13:00I was wondering if any airline would take up this ...I was wondering if any airline would take up this route they have left it a bit late less than two weeks before it starts. What would be good if Barrier Air could interline with Air NZ so someone can book say a HLZ-AKL-LAX flight with one ticket. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-70678758708521743022016-01-26T23:00:04.010+13:002016-01-26T23:00:04.010+13:00It still exists today. Bergman, Gerard and Roberts...It still exists today. Bergman, Gerard and Roberts didn't do it for 30 years combined if they knew it didn't make money? Once common denominator - they all invested because why? Why does anyone invest? They have all been around since the 1980's Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-21757364113471032682016-01-26T22:54:32.141+13:002016-01-26T22:54:32.141+13:00But to be fair it's probably easier to fill a ...But to be fair it's probably easier to fill a Caravan than a Beech, or even just make up a break even load...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-14710626189865434922016-01-26T22:52:27.774+13:002016-01-26T22:52:27.774+13:00How can you be sure it made money ?How can you be sure it made money ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-30402872593382318842016-01-26T22:50:52.768+13:002016-01-26T22:50:52.768+13:00Well unlike the pessimists on there I actually thi...Well unlike the pessimists on there I actually think this service could actually work, particularly since both populations are growing rapidly and there is growing need for connections. But, to attract the people the price has to be right. At $82 I think they're pretty close. The question is, how much do sunair charge to fly to north shore ? Competitive ?<br /><br />I agree with the above Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-63793086851328221932016-01-26T21:54:48.379+13:002016-01-26T21:54:48.379+13:00Without the assurity of connecting to an onwards s...Without the assurity of connecting to an onwards service at AKL, this is doomed to fail. You can count the number of people travelling solely between the two ports on one hand each month (excluding the Eagle staff which sometimes make up half the bloody passenger load!). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-26317430531192650852016-01-26T21:48:05.514+13:002016-01-26T21:48:05.514+13:003- the fleet Barrier Air operate all have signage ...3- the fleet Barrier Air operate all have signage on them, every aircraft. They don't operate trilanders for now almost 3 years. InformedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-86531771142359091802016-01-26T21:45:15.116+13:002016-01-26T21:45:15.116+13:00Go back to what made you money for 34 years. Tried...Go back to what made you money for 34 years. Tried and true Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-44156401054107106922016-01-26T21:41:08.321+13:002016-01-26T21:41:08.321+13:00I totally applaud this move. However I think there...I totally applaud this move. However I think there are a few challenges they face. 1-their fleet is so diverse in liveries you couldn't tell if their caravan operates the same company as the BNI Trislander. 2-the name just doesn't suit. I see barrier air and get the impression that they operate flights to Great Barrier Island and then operate these other flights from Auckland because theyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-28716579625903460832016-01-26T21:21:00.168+13:002016-01-26T21:21:00.168+13:00This is going to end awesomelyThis is going to end awesomelyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com