tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post7462002176769752919..comments2024-03-27T23:23:10.995+13:00Comments on 3rd Level New Zealand: A couple of other mainland routesSteve Lhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06894943682751269848noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-31305019996004576342020-12-02T09:04:01.506+13:002020-12-02T09:04:01.506+13:00Still a tiny PC-12 would not be too many seats to ...Still a tiny PC-12 would not be too many seats to fill for a Westport to CHC service when the drive is like 5 hours between the two. Also I agree a PC-12 could open up HKK to WLG flight. The convenience of having a local flight over using the other coast airport 120 km away would surely suit the time poor business people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-37535179964614586582020-11-29T14:20:51.244+13:002020-11-29T14:20:51.244+13:00Negative. Back when Eagle and Air West Coast had t...Negative. Back when Eagle and Air West Coast had tried it, Westport had some big industries. The Cement Works, Mining ect. Cement Works is long gone, Mining is a struggle with lots of negative press, environmental concerns ect... There was more money floating around town, and more people to sell flights too. If Eagle and Air West Coast struggled to get the numbers back then, it will be a hard Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-59153374903378010042020-11-28T19:19:40.226+13:002020-11-28T19:19:40.226+13:00I think two airlines competing on a thin route lik...I think two airlines competing on a thin route like CHC-WSZ at the same time would not have helped it. But today might be different with just Sounds air solely flying their 9 seater PC-12 with not many seats to fill.Jardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09479692716451494956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-26249351379396902822020-11-28T08:20:14.648+13:002020-11-28T08:20:14.648+13:00I don't think Westport would be a winner... lo...I don't think Westport would be a winner... look at Coastair... http://3rdlevelnz.blogspot.com/2010/04/coastair-tried-to-find-niche.html Air West Coast and Air NZ also tried it.Steve Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894943682751269848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-85305374553682667222020-11-28T07:24:32.101+13:002020-11-28T07:24:32.101+13:00Good schedules there Steve. Another good one that ...Good schedules there Steve. Another good one that might work is Westport to Christchurch a good route for Sounds air as they already have staff in both ports and is a long way by road.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-52910951480488512812020-11-27T18:27:15.768+13:002020-11-27T18:27:15.768+13:00Look at Pine Air or Buckley Air in my list of airl...Look at Pine Air or Buckley Air in my list of airline profiles... Clearly makes the answer NOSteve Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894943682751269848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-3340461635302910772020-11-27T18:26:05.264+13:002020-11-27T18:26:05.264+13:00To the TEU local... great analysis of your local s...To the TEU local... great analysis of your local situation... especially with you being connected to the ZQN market. Interesting to suggest TEU-CHC. I suspect while there might be a market TEU to CHC for the locals success would be determined by how many CHC-TEU "tourists" it got. Good marketing needed.Steve Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894943682751269848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-54720553283333548782020-11-27T18:21:14.316+13:002020-11-27T18:21:14.316+13:00On your routes Fraser.... In my opinion...
Te An...On your routes Fraser.... In my opinion... <br /><br />Te Anau-AKL. Once tourism opens, Air Chats... NO... too far, not enough reason for traffic... AGREE with the comments about CHC but for Sounds Air, not Air Chats <br />Timaru-WEL. Great addition for Sounds Air - NO... no need with NZ operating it<br />Oamaru-WEL. Could Sounds Air connect a flight to Wellington - I'd like to see them try..Steve Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894943682751269848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-21549366320384200862020-11-27T18:20:51.209+13:002020-11-27T18:20:51.209+13:00I would love to see E Jets in NZ! Definitely the r...I would love to see E Jets in NZ! Definitely the routes there Steve, and maybe also routes like CHC-IVC. Love the 195E2s, they are radical machines. Flew one in Norway, and the seat pitch was extremely tight, but they are lovely aircraft all the sameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-85282181589800690092020-11-27T18:06:02.967+13:002020-11-27T18:06:02.967+13:00I agree - WKA-AKL won't work for Air Chathams ...I agree - WKA-AKL won't work for Air Chathams - it is more an Air NZ jet route when the market is able to sustain it... I wonder if the gap between an ATR and A320 is too big... I wonder if an Embraer 195 would be a good fit for NZ... certainly HLZ-WLG, HLZ-CHC would be a starter. WKA-AKL might work too!<br />Steve Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894943682751269848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-39485168074797423332020-11-27T17:24:53.223+13:002020-11-27T17:24:53.223+13:00I agree Jarden - PPQ-CHC and WAG-CHC... I would do...I agree Jarden - PPQ-CHC and WAG-CHC... I would do a PPQ-CHC-WAG schedule It could then do a WAG-AKL - reverse in the afternoon... Rationale... A lot of Kapiti Coast people are WLG-based business people so an early morning service to CHC could be a winner. WAG hasn't got that same demand... it is more family based travel but the population would justify a service I suspect... Reverse scheduleSteve Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06894943682751269848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-12203599342312333622020-11-27T13:53:46.516+13:002020-11-27T13:53:46.516+13:00Fully understand re no chance for AKl to TEU fligh...Fully understand re no chance for AKl to TEU flight. Perhaps someone should start a petition going and give it to Sounds Air. So they can start flying from CHC. Or would there aircraft be too small?<br /><br />Interesting what would be the second airport AIR CHATS will serve from AKL other than Masterton there is no real big town left without a service to AKL in the North Island.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-54087945249731330322020-11-26T22:49:08.778+13:002020-11-26T22:49:08.778+13:00When Vincent's flew the BAe 146 for Tauck Tour...When Vincent's flew the BAe 146 for Tauck Tours it brought passengers down from BHE-TEU before returning empty to usually ZQN for the night. Exclusively for Tauck Tour customers only. No one from the public was aloud to book on. Alliance also operated the services using a F50. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-4704974129491443012020-11-26T21:20:20.825+13:002020-11-26T21:20:20.825+13:00Wow that came off abrasive sorry! ^ makes me sound...Wow that came off abrasive sorry! ^ makes me sound horrible! My apologies. All I was meaning was that after a lot of surveys in the district, flights to AKL aren't really desired. If we had a Airline say Air Chats for example come to town and say we want to provide you with a Air service a couple of days a week, which destination do you want us to fly too. Surveys and public opinion favour Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-55606345337182156542020-11-26T16:34:32.659+13:002020-11-26T16:34:32.659+13:00So a local of 40 years who is heavily involved in ...So a local of 40 years who is heavily involved in the airport has no idea.... alright then.... <br /><br />Auckland to Te Anau direct flights will not happen, and are not wanted by the locals. As I said above, flights to Christchurch are desired.<br /><br />Photos on the Manapouri Airport website are indeed of the weekly Tauck Tours, and also charter work for Fiordland Lobster. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-36494008446951199132020-11-26T14:51:09.234+13:002020-11-26T14:51:09.234+13:00Only problem is Sounds Air 9 seater is very limite...Only problem is Sounds Air 9 seater is very limited so the high costs of running a airline makes the seat cost very expensive. A Saab sized aircraft would have been better for Wanaka so to be able to offer lower lead in fares.<br />Even for Te Anau to CHC would be better in a Saab over the tiny PC12!<br /><br />The Tauck tours was once served with a 90 seat Bae 146 jet to TEU from CHC so must Jardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09479692716451494956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-1768747492636556472020-11-26T06:37:34.789+13:002020-11-26T06:37:34.789+13:00I think that what Jarden referring to regarding ph...I think that what Jarden referring to regarding photos on the website and possibly has forgotten. Te Anau would have worked very well and would have been on the sights for Air Chats, pre covid.<br />I feel that it would have worked quite well. The amount of tourist that wanted to travel there to do the walks etc. I feel that it would have worked quite well, especially amongst the higher end fras444https://www.blogger.com/profile/00859543159403131176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-36485978522073933592020-11-25T07:36:56.216+13:002020-11-25T07:36:56.216+13:00TEU to AKL will never happen. As a local of 40 yea...TEU to AKL will never happen. As a local of 40 years, there is no appetite for it. We want a Christchurch link, not Auckland. Just once or twice a week would be nice. A survey was commissioned a few years back, and a link to Christchurch was a hot topic, but no one was interested in a Auckland link. Queenstown and Invercargill both have A320 flights to Auckland and have really good fares. It'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-76807915323284808852020-11-24T11:13:11.287+13:002020-11-24T11:13:11.287+13:00Te Anau is very possible as Air Chathams has been ...Te Anau is very possible as Air Chathams has been there on many occasions.<br />http://teanauairport.co.nz/gallery/<br />Just look at the airport website shows the Saab and Convair on the ramp.<br />If AKL to TEU is fine in the comments here why not Wanaka which is a larger town and closer it doesn't make sense.Jardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09479692716451494956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-11716007024877811092020-11-23T12:55:49.368+13:002020-11-23T12:55:49.368+13:00On this one, I have to disagree, and agree with th...On this one, I have to disagree, and agree with the above comments. Wanaka will never see a turboprop airlink direct to Auckland. It does not make economic sense, business 101. We may in the future see A320 flights into Wanaka, but that will be a while hahaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-6395394118853292232020-11-23T11:25:59.848+13:002020-11-23T11:25:59.848+13:00One thing is you can never say never in the aviati...One thing is you can never say never in the aviation world.Jardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09479692716451494956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-16422045811456040752020-11-22T20:59:37.675+13:002020-11-22T20:59:37.675+13:00+1 I have to agree. You won't see any schedule...+1 I have to agree. You won't see any scheduled turboprop flights between Auckland and Wanaka ever. However they were pushing for direct jet flights in years to come. This would take significant investment of Wanaka Airport, and a lot of public convincing. I believe the locals aren't overly impressed with the thought of Jets flying over the town. <br /><br />I'm sure all us AV Geeks HFkiwinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-38898063721014627322020-11-22T19:58:36.697+13:002020-11-22T19:58:36.697+13:00Te Anau might be too small only has 2000 residents...Te Anau might be too small only has 2000 residents.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847048720055520108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-88297422905532299482020-11-22T19:57:37.452+13:002020-11-22T19:57:37.452+13:00Air Kaikoura already serve Kaikoura to Welly. Perh...Air Kaikoura already serve Kaikoura to Welly. Perhaps they could try CHC next. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847048720055520108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397738201762479975.post-25999959433472784472020-11-22T19:56:21.734+13:002020-11-22T19:56:21.734+13:00You never going to get a jet in Wanaka either. Its...You never going to get a jet in Wanaka either. Its only going to get props...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14847048720055520108noreply@blogger.com